A podcast by a UFO nerd and his tolerant friend.

Because if UFOs are real… what else? If any of this turns out to be true, it’s a very exciting time!

Most Recent Episode

Ep 46: Elizondo Threatened, Kirkpatrick Caught Lying

We open up by sharing a story from two players on the Las Vegas Raiders who say the entire team witnessed a UFO that did not appear on radar while flying home from a game. Then we talk about Lue Elizondo revealing that he and other whistleblowers have received threats, and declares that he is not suicidal. Finally, we get into a juicy bit of drama where Brandon Fugal, the owner of Skinwalker Ranch, claims that Sean Kirkpatrick was in a briefing he delivered to Congress in 2018, and that Kirkpatrick asserted the truth of the UFO phenomenon. Kirkpatrick denied this, but Fugal produced a photo proving Kirkpatrick was there, which raises the question… What else is Kirkpatrick lying about?

Previous 5 Episodes

  1. Ep 45: “Zero Doubt:” Karl Nell speaks about Non-Human Intelligence on Earth

    Karl Nell spoke about non-human intelligence and catastrophic disclosure.

  2. Ep 44: Kingman, AZ UFO Crash Retrieval Confirmation?

    Chris Mellon shared a Signal conversation with a senior USG official claiming they were getting access to the UAP that crashed in Kingman, AZ in 1953!

  3. Ep 43: Why Grusch Wouldn’t Talk to AARO

    AARO tried repeatedly to get Grusch to testify, but couldn’t address his security concerns.

  4. Ep 42: David Grusch: 1933 UFO Crash Retrieval in Italy

    David Grusch says the first UFO crash retrieval was in Italy in 1933, and the Pope was involved!

  5. Ep 41: Mysterious Drones Swarm Navy Ships and Air Force Bases

    DOD UAP reporting guidelines, a congressional UAP select committee, mysterious drone swarms, and more!

More episodes can be found in the archive.