A podcast by a UFO nerd and his tolerant friend.

Because if UFOs are real… what else? If any of this turns out to be true, it’s a very exciting time!

Most Recent Episode

Ep 44: Kingman, AZ UFO Crash Retrieval Confirmation?

A bit of a wild ride in this episode, all kicked off by Chris Mellon sharing a Signal conversation with an unnamed senior government official who claimed to be getting access to the crash retrieval program, including a “recovered UAP that landed in Kingman, AZ in the 50s.” The Kingman crash is a legendary and controversial story, so we’re getting into it today by discussing three witnesses of varying credibility, including a engineer who was bussed out to the crash site to estimate the crash velocity, a mechanical engineer who claims to have worked on flight simulators for human reproductions of the craft recovered from Kingman, and a microbiologist who claims to have worked with an alien survivor of the crash! Not all of it is believable, but if you accept the premise that a nonhuman craft crashed in Kingman in 1953, it’s hard to know where to draw a line in the mess of contradictory claims around the crash. Buckle up, we’re getting weird!

Previous 5 Episodes

  1. Ep 43: Why Grusch Wouldn’t Talk to AARO

    AARO tried repeatedly to get Grusch to testify, but couldn’t address his security concerns.

  2. Ep 42: David Grusch: 1933 UFO Crash Retrieval in Italy

    David Grusch says the first UFO crash retrieval was in Italy in 1933, and the Pope was involved!

  3. Ep 41: Mysterious Drones Swarm Navy Ships and Air Force Bases

    DOD UAP reporting guidelines, a congressional UAP select committee, mysterious drone swarms, and more!

  4. Ep 40: Is AARO’s Historical Report a Coverup?

    AARO released the first volume of their report on 80 years of UFO investigations, and concluded there is no evidence of extraterrestrial activity.

  5. Ep 39: Garry Nolan, Chris Mellon, Karl Nell, and more at the SOL Foundation Symposium

    The SOL Foundation videos are up, discussing the physics of UAPs, the ethics of disclosure, and how to avoid societal collapse from catastrophic disclosure.

More episodes can be found in the archive.