Imminent: Lue Elizondo and the Pentagon’s Secret UFO Program
Lue Elizondo’s new book: Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs is finally out, and it’s jam-packed with fascinating information. Broadly speaking, Lue confirms David Grusch’s allegations about an illegally hidden UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program, but he also gets into the back story about how AATIP split from AAWSAP under his direction, how he left the Pentagon for TTSA, and how he and Chris Mellon have worked with Congress to advance disclosure. He also discusses his experience training as a remote viewer for Project Stargate, encountering orbs in his own home, how UFOs work, and even alien implants!
- Lue was recruited into AAWSAP because he was part of Project Stargate
- Was recruited for Stargate training in his twenties.
- He completed training just as the program was shut down.
- Describes using training in field operations.
- Lue saw orbs in his house
- Says he was warned when he took the job that “these portfolios are sticky.”
- Sounds related to the hitchhiker effect described in Skinwalker Ranch books.
- Orbs seen repeatedly in and around his home by him and his family and neighbors.
- Lue says Roswell was real and bodies were recovered
- Says crash was caused by an EMP
- Coverup included threats to families in the area
- Dead nonhuman bodies were recovered at Roswell and several other crash sites
- Lue has seen alien implants
- Removed from US military service members who encountered UAP
- Look like microchips surrounded in living tissue
- They’re mobile, and will move around the body to avoid being extracted
- They figured out how UFOs work?
- Hal Puthoff shared a theory about generating a warp bubble that could address the five observables.
- Some discussion about how this explains various reported craft shapes
- “This is no longer a theoretical challenge, it is now a technological challenge.”
- Lue took over AATIP due to religious objections to Skinwalker Ranch investigations
- Skinwalker ranch paranormal research was scientific but deeply controversial
- Shares that he was told point-blank there was no reason to look into this because it’s demonic.
- Under pressure to shut the entire program down, Lue broke the UAP focused part off, called it AATIP, and ran it though his office
- Effectively no budget or support
- AATIP developed a UFO trap
- They used the term “honeypot” and it wasn’t a capture operation
- Would use a nuclear-powered carrier strike group to draw out UAP
- Focus intelligence assets on the UAP for data collection.
- Motivated to investigate the safety risk of UAP, but the Pentagon wanted nothing to do with it.
- Lue left the Pentagon because he couldn’t brief the SECDEF
- Lue was frustrated that there was no concern over possible threat of UAP
- UAP could be benevolent, neutral, or malevolent.
- Thinks it's foolish to assume benevolent, and there’s evidence they’re not
- Without SECDEF support he felt no progress could be made, and was increasingly uncomfortable with the secrecy.
- Lue suffered a Pentagon smear campaign
- Emails deleted (in violation of 9/11 law)
- Denial that AATIP existed, had a budget, that Lue was the leader
- Attempts to remove his clearances
- His resignation letter wasn’t shared with SECDEF until NYT article
- Lue and Chris Mellon worked with Congress to push for disclosure
- After TTSA fell apart in the pandemic, he and Chris shifted their focus to lobbying Congress.
- Gillibrand and Burchett both watched the History Channel show!
- Long game. Describes a world where he and Chris bring witnesses to Congress and help draft language leading to Pentagon transparency.
- Initial unclassified UAP report, creation of AARO, UAPDA
- Constant sabotage attempts by Pentagon (implied to be Legacy program), led to weird language and bulletproof definitions
References
- Luis Elizondo: Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs
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